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Showing posts with label reason. Show all posts

Saturday, October 29, 2016

Answering the Pro-Abortionists' Objections about Choice, Privacy, and Rights.

Restating My Thesis:

Premise 1:  All acts that intentionally take the life of an innocent, human person are immoral acts and should be illegal.  

Premise 2:  Abortion is an act that intentionally takes the life of an innocent, human person.  

Conclusion:  Therefore, abortion is an immoral act and should be illegal.


This is a valid argument.  


Which means, if the premises are true, then the conclusion is necessarily true.  For more on validity and arguments go here.  For a further treatment of my thesis go here.  

Objections to my thesis tend to fall into one of the following categories:
  • The objection on the being of the fetus.
  • Objections from choice, privacy, and rights.
  • Objections from the lesser evil.
  • Objections concerning endangering the mother's life or women's health.
  • The objection base on the Violinist Argument.
  • The objection that I should not shove my morality down someone else's throat.  a.k.a. "You cannot legislate morality."



In this post I address the second group of objections: Objections from choice, privacy, and rights.  

I'll address the later objections in other posts.

Objections from choice, privacy, and rights:


            These objections say abortion deals with a woman’s body and no one has the right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body.  Abortion is wholly and solely the woman’s choice, they say.  This is probably the most frequent objection hence the name pro-choice.  In fact, some pro-choice advocates refer to the other side of the debate as anti-choice.  Others will just have to deal with it when a woman makes a choice concerning her body, they say.
            A related objection is the right to privacy.  Whatever a woman asks her doctor to do is a private medical matter and the government has no right to legislate anything that would invade that privacy.  This objection appears often in matters of parental consent for minors or for spousal/partner consent.  If a woman wants an abortion she can have it and that is all there is to it, they say.

            Some think since the United States Supreme Court ruling in Row v. Wade made abortion legal it is therefore morally acceptable.  Pro-choice advocates think this makes the issue of abortion a closed matter since it is “constitutionally guaranteed.”  They say it’s a constitutional right to have an abortion and to anyone who tries to take away a person’s constitutional right is criminal (since they're violating someone else's constitutional rights).  The Supreme Court ruled on the matter; the matter is closed.  Do not take away our rights, they say.

Response to objections of choice, privacy, and rights


Is Abortion Merely a Matter of Choice?

It is misleading to say that a woman (or anybody) has a right to do whatever they choose to their bodies .  Sure, a woman has the right to make many choices: hair styles, body piercing, clothes styles, which church to attend (if any at all), for whom to vote, etc.  They are also free to choose to pursue other areas where their choice is not the sole determining factor in the decision.  They may choose to apply for a certain job, but others make the decision to hire her or not.  She may choose to ask a man to marry her, but he still has a right to say no.  Every person has many choices in life that others also have a voice in the matter.  No person – man or woman – is in complete control over every aspect of their life.  An certainly no person has absolute rights to do things with their life, or their bodies, when others are directly related to the consequences.
There are also some choices that we are not to make – even to our own bodies.  If someone is suicidal, others do not sit back and say, “Well, it is their choice.  We shouldn’t interfere.”  The same situation would apply to a woman in cases of anorexia, bulimia, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, staying with an abusive spouse, or self-mutilation.  We would not be outraged if someone else intervened and urged the woman to make a different choice – we would applaud such actions by that other person.  There are some choices we do not allow others to make even to their own bodies.  Therefore, it is not necessarily wrong to make laws forbidding actions against one’s own body.
But, as I have shown, the fetus is not a part of the woman’s body; the fetus is in her body, but the fetus is not a part of her body.  So, the argument of a woman saying she has the right to have an abortion because she has the right to do to her body whatever she wishes fails on two grounds:  1.) the fetus is not a part of the woman’s body and, 2.) she does not in fact have the right to do whatever she wants to her body especially when the outcome of that action has effects on someone else.
Abortion is not a matter of a woman doing something to her own body.  It is a matter of a woman destroying another's body - an innocent person's body.  No woman has a right to do that!
The objection from a matter of choice is not valid.

A Constitutional Right?

Does a woman have the right, even the constitutional right, to kill her child (because that is what is happening during an abortion) for any reason she so chooses?  Absolutely not!  Even though there are currently legal decisions “giving” her that legal right, we must remember that legal rights are not always morally right.  
It was once legal to own slaves and treat them as you wished, but was it right to do so?  No!  Even though slavery was legal, it was not morally right.  The legal right was even upheld by the Supreme Court, but it was later overturned by one President.  The laws of men are not set in stone.  Therefore, the argument from Supreme Court approval is not a valid argument either.
The pro-choice objection from a matter of "constitution" rights is not valid.

A Matter of Privacy?

What about the woman's privacy?  Well, privacy is not an absolute right either; this applies to everyone.  There are many things that I could do in the privacy of my own home - or anywhere else I may have privacy at the moment - that could get me arrested, but I do not do them and then plea that my privacy needs protected.  The same goes for everyone else.  
Say a woman takes her toddler to her doctor and says, “Here, get rid of this child.  I can’t deal with her anymore, she's getting in the way of other things I have planned for life; but, oh, let’s keep this whole thing just between you and me.”  Would the rest of us be expected to say, “Oh, well, she did it in private, so it’s none of our business”?  Certainly not!
Now some object that I am talking about a toddler and they are talking about a non-viable group of cells.  Once again, I say that an innocent human is an innocent human regardless of the point of development.  Age and location of the human are not qualifiers for a life-ending act.  Privacy is not an issue when it comes to terminating the life of an innocent human being.
The pro-choice objection from a matter of privacy is not valid.

Privacy is not an issue when it comes to terminating the life of an innocent human being.


(For a further treatment of my arguments for every fetus being an individual human being separate from the mother, go here and my treatment against the pro-choice objection of personhood of the fetus go here.)

Monday, June 10, 2013

All Thought Is Not Valid:

I thought I was going to die ...

I forget the exact words of the discussion, but it went something like this:
She: "Those people have good jobs just because they know somebody.  It's not fair." 
He:  "Yeah, you know what they say, 'It's not what you know.  It's who you know.'" 
Me:  "Well, just because you know someone at the company doesn't mean you can get a job at that company.  If that was so, then I'd be working at some great companies because I have some friends that work at great companies." 
She:  "Yeah, if you know someone working at the company, your chances of working there are much better. I tried to get a job there, but was turned down.  It's because I didn't know anybody there.  That other dude got a job there, so it's just because he knows someone working there already.  It's not fair." 
He:  "Yeah, she makes a valid point." 
Me:  "Well, no.  Actually her point is not valid." 
She:  "What?!  How dare you say my point is not valid!" 
It was about this time her eyes about popped out of her skull and the veins in her neck started bulging.  She looked like one of those mad women on The Maury Show who was just told the results of the paternity test did not go the way she was hoping.
He:  "Watch out, man."
I tried to explain what validity meant and how her point was not valid, but it was too late.  I was already labeled as insensitive and other horrible things.  Further intellectual discussion was hopeless.  I then turned my attention from teaching a miniature lesson in logic to getting ready to block punches, kicks, and wild cat scratches.

What is an Argument?

The word argument, as used in logic, means a series of statements arranged in a certain order to arrive at a conclusion.  One may think of an argument as a conclusion and the reasons for believing the conclusion.   A student studies many such arrangements of statements in a introductory course on logic.

As soon as someone asks me for the reasons why I think such-and-such is true, they are asking to hear my argument.  An argument does not necessarily mean yelling and shouting.   To many, this is exactly what it means.  However, to someone who studies mathematics, logic, or philosophy, an argument is simply the manner in which the reasons support a conclusion.

What is a Valid Argument?

Many people I have met use the word "valid" to mean whatever is being discuss is worth hearing or should be considered or respected.  They may say, "I have a valid opinion" or "he has a valid point."  (The logic students snicker).  A person's point of view may or many not be valid.  Not all thought is valid.

By definition, an argument is valid when the conclusion necessarily follows from the premises.  That is, if the reasons are true, then, by the structure of the argument, the conclusion must also be true.  The logic and advanced mathematics students study these forms of arguments to justify their conclusions and statements.  An argument is said to be invalid if you cannot come to the stated conclusion based on the reasons given.  It is not saying that the conclusion is false; it is saying you cannot logically arrive at this conclusion based on the reasons given.

I will not try to summarize semesters worth of study in one blog entry.   Go to college and take rigorous courses.   Get yourself some books on introductory logic and study them on your own.

An example of a Valid Argument:

(Premise)  All acts that intentionally harm an innocent human being are immoral and should be illegal.
(Premise)  Abortion is an act that intentionally harms an innocent human being.
(Conclusion)  Therefore, abortion is immoral and should be illegal.

Whether you agree with my premises or conclusion does not matter.  This is a valid argument.  That is, if the premises are true, then the conclusion is necessarily true also.  So, if the premises can be shown to be true, then rejecting the conclusion would be an irrational way of thinking.

An example of an Invalid Argument:

(Premise)  If macroevolution is true, then we would expect to see similarities between different species.
(Premise)  We do see similarities between different species.
(Conclusion)  Therefore, macroevolution is true.

This is an invalid argument.  You cannot logically arrive at this conclusion based on this reasoning.  The argument is invalid by what is called the fallacy of affirming the consequent.  This is also the fallacy used in my opening example.  This and many other fallacies are discussed in a first semester course in logic.  This being an invalid argument is not denying that macroevolution is true; it is stating that you cannot arrive at the truth of the conclusion based on the reasons given.  Sadly, so many people (including educators) use this argument to try to justify that macroevolution (single-celled animals evolving into humans) is true.

Validity vs. Truth:

"Valid" does not mean "true."  "Invalid" does not mean "false."  You can have a valid argument full of false statements.  You can also have an invalid argument full of true statements.  You can have a true conclusion from an invalid argument and you can have a false statement as a conclusion from a valid argument.  Validity deals with the structure and positioning of these statements; that's it.

Here's an example of a valid argument with false statements:

(Premise)  All men are honey badgers.
(Premise)  All honey badgers are chihuahuas.
(Conclusion)  Therefore, all men are chihuahuas.

I know this is a silly example, but, believe it or not, this is a valid argument.  That is, IF the premises were true, then the conclusion MUST also be true.   However, as is in this case, since at least one of the premises is false (in fact, both are false), then there is no logical, rational reason for accepting the conclusion.

Here's an example of an invalid argument with true statements:

(Premise)  Some fathers are accountants.
(Premise)  Some accountants are over 50 years old.
(Conclusion)  Therefore, some fathers are over 50 years old.

Each of these premises are true and the conclusion is true.  Almost everyone can prove each of these statements.  However, this argument is invalid because you cannot arrive at this conclusion (even though it is true) simply by using these premises.   That is, the reasons (premises) do not necessarily lead to this conclusion.

What is a Sound Argument?

An argument is considered to be sound if: (1) it is valid and (2) the premises are shown (or known) to be true.  So, if an argument is sound, then only an irrational person would deny the conclusion.  There are two methods for refuting someone's argument: (1) show their argument to be invalid, or (2) show at least one of their premises to be false.


Why Does It Matter?

Logic is used in all forms of thinking.  Poor logic leads to poor thinking.  Good logic leads to good thinking.  Invalid arguments are the result of sloppy thinking (or an insufficient education).  By using invalid arguments we fool ourselves and possibly mislead those to whom we are communicating into believing things that are not true or believing things for the wrong reasons.  All rational thought depends on sound reasoning.  We need to think, speak, and act using sound reason.

Bad ideas can have bad consequences.   Bad reasoning can have bad consequences.

Good ideas and sound reasoning often has good consequences.